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		<title>By: william dotinga</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How do I install a flash for video chat? I already have adobe flash player installed on my laptop]]></description>
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		<title>By: Yes! Flash required for Gmail voice and video chat &#171; Design Space</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yes! Flash required for Gmail voice and video chat &#171; Design Space</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...]    This is a very nice and informative article by Denver Gingerich(ossguy) in his page A better world. Based upon a research, he showed that google voice and video chat requires flash plugin installed [...] ]]></description>
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		<title>By: ossguy</title>
		<link>http://ossguy.com/?p=153#comment-186</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 03:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, it is a fair assumption, though having to have 3 plugins installed (the 2 listed above for the Gmail plugin and 1 for the Flash player) in order to use a feature seems a bit overkill.  And you&#039;re right, there is nothing intrinsically better about the Gmail plugin than the Flash plugin.  Both are proprietary plugins for non-standard technologies.  Although I don&#039;t believe you need to agree to a &quot;thou shalt not decompile, redistribute, etc.&quot; license for the Gmail plugin.  But that&#039;s probably just because Google&#039;s lawyers aren&#039;t on top of it yet.

My post was more about correcting a widely-held fallacious statement, reported by several popular news sites.  There are a couple reasons I felt it needed correcting.  First of all, news sites should not be able to get away with making blatantly false statements.  I find far too often that the &quot;respectable&quot; news sites fail to cite their sources and tend to pull their facts out of the air or, at best, from hastily-drawn conclusions.  Meanwhile, less well-known sites like many personal blogs take the time to cite every single source with inline links and they are somehow considered inferior.

The second reason I felt a correction needed to be made was that the lack of correct reporting, particularly the lack of any statement from a popular news source that definitively stated the Gmail plugin needed Flash, pointed to a bigger problem.  That problem is the reliance Internet users have on Flash.  It seems that none of the news reporters had a browser around without Flash installed to test their claim.  Why is this?  Are we unable to use the Internet without a Flash player?  That would certainly be a sad state of affairs.  Where has the open Internet gone?

Furthermore, I could find no sites saying &quot;I couldn&#039;t install the Gmail plugin because I didn&#039;t have Flash and I don&#039;t want to install Flash&quot;.  As &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/09/29/tipb-answers-why-no-flash-video-on-the-iphone/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The iPhone blog points out&lt;/a&gt;, Flash is used a lot for annoying ads.  It seems the people who might not use Flash for that reason just grin and bear it when Google tells them they need Flash.  People should stop putting up with web sites that tell them they need Flash.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it is a fair assumption, though having to have 3 plugins installed (the 2 listed above for the Gmail plugin and 1 for the Flash player) in order to use a feature seems a bit overkill.  And you&#8217;re right, there is nothing intrinsically better about the Gmail plugin than the Flash plugin.  Both are proprietary plugins for non-standard technologies.  Although I don&#8217;t believe you need to agree to a &#8220;thou shalt not decompile, redistribute, etc.&#8221; license for the Gmail plugin.  But that&#8217;s probably just because Google&#8217;s lawyers aren&#8217;t on top of it yet.</p>
<p>My post was more about correcting a widely-held fallacious statement, reported by several popular news sites.  There are a couple reasons I felt it needed correcting.  First of all, news sites should not be able to get away with making blatantly false statements.  I find far too often that the &#8220;respectable&#8221; news sites fail to cite their sources and tend to pull their facts out of the air or, at best, from hastily-drawn conclusions.  Meanwhile, less well-known sites like many personal blogs take the time to cite every single source with inline links and they are somehow considered inferior.</p>
<p>The second reason I felt a correction needed to be made was that the lack of correct reporting, particularly the lack of any statement from a popular news source that definitively stated the Gmail plugin needed Flash, pointed to a bigger problem.  That problem is the reliance Internet users have on Flash.  It seems that none of the news reporters had a browser around without Flash installed to test their claim.  Why is this?  Are we unable to use the Internet without a Flash player?  That would certainly be a sad state of affairs.  Where has the open Internet gone?</p>
<p>Furthermore, I could find no sites saying &#8220;I couldn&#8217;t install the Gmail plugin because I didn&#8217;t have Flash and I don&#8217;t want to install Flash&#8221;.  As <a href="http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/09/29/tipb-answers-why-no-flash-video-on-the-iphone/" rel="nofollow">The iPhone blog points out</a>, Flash is used a lot for annoying ads.  It seems the people who might not use Flash for that reason just grin and bear it when Google tells them they need Flash.  People should stop putting up with web sites that tell them they need Flash.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very interesting, thanks for poking at this.
Isn&#039;t a relatively fair assumption that anyone willing to install Google&#039;s proprietary plugin would already have been willing to install Flash?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting, thanks for poking at this.<br />
Isn&#8217;t a relatively fair assumption that anyone willing to install Google&#8217;s proprietary plugin would already have been willing to install Flash?</p>
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