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	<title>Comments on: Moonlight and the Microsoft Media Pack</title>
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	<description>Ideas on how we can make the world a better place, with a technical bent</description>
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		<title>By: ossguy</title>
		<link>http://ossguy.com/?p=266&#038;cpage=1#comment-22927</link>
		<dc:creator>ossguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 15:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless you also pay a licensing fee to the codec patent holders, that would be technically illegal.  Many codecs cannot be implemented without violating a patent so even the &quot;free software&quot; implementations require users to pay a licensing fee.  See http://ossguy.com/?p=252 (&quot;Evaluating codec freedom&quot;) for more details.

This is why Debian and many other distributions cannot include free software implementations of certain codecs in their &quot;main&quot; repositories.  They have been threatened with legal action by the patent holders for doing so.

Practically speaking, the codecs are still available to people if they look hard enough.  But using them without a license (and usually payment) is violating the patent holders&#039; rights.

For a more detailed list of problems with patented codecs, see http://ossguy.com/?p=233 (&quot;The codec dilemma&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless you also pay a licensing fee to the codec patent holders, that would be technically illegal.  Many codecs cannot be implemented without violating a patent so even the "free software" implementations require users to pay a licensing fee.  See <a href="http://ossguy.com/?p=252" rel="nofollow">http://ossguy.com/?p=252</a> ("Evaluating codec freedom") for more details.</p>
<p>This is why Debian and many other distributions cannot include free software implementations of certain codecs in their "main" repositories.  They have been threatened with legal action by the patent holders for doing so.</p>
<p>Practically speaking, the codecs are still available to people if they look hard enough.  But using them without a license (and usually payment) is violating the patent holders' rights.</p>
<p>For a more detailed list of problems with patented codecs, see <a href="http://ossguy.com/?p=233" rel="nofollow">http://ossguy.com/?p=233</a> ("The codec dilemma").</p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth Jakobsen</title>
		<link>http://ossguy.com/?p=266&#038;cpage=1#comment-22921</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenneth Jakobsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 13:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not just use the codecs, already available under free software licenses?.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not just use the codecs, already available under free software licenses?.</p>
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		<title>By: ossguy</title>
		<link>http://ossguy.com/?p=266&#038;cpage=1#comment-2574</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you trying to create?  A video hosting service?  Or is this just for you as a user that wants to use exclusively free software?

If you&#039;re creating some sort of service, then embedding Dirac or Theora video with Vorbis sound in an object or video element would work, though you&#039;d have to show Mac OS X and Windows users how to download the codecs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you trying to create?  A video hosting service?  Or is this just for you as a user that wants to use exclusively free software?</p>
<p>If you're creating some sort of service, then embedding Dirac or Theora video with Vorbis sound in an object or video element would work, though you'd have to show Mac OS X and Windows users how to download the codecs.</p>
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		<title>By: gnuman</title>
		<link>http://ossguy.com/?p=266&#038;cpage=1#comment-2566</link>
		<dc:creator>gnuman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the heads up. I&#039;m looking at all these type of technologies at the moment. I can&#039;t use flash cause it&#039;s proprietary, same withh silverlight. that left me with JavaFX.....but codecs as well as the licence on scenegraph is still anyone&#039;s guess</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the heads up. I'm looking at all these type of technologies at the moment. I can't use flash cause it's proprietary, same withh silverlight. that left me with JavaFX.....but codecs as well as the licence on scenegraph is still anyone's guess</p>
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